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Even in boxing, different judges often have very different scores - BSB admin about sQreen scores

Yaroslav 'NS' Kuznetsov, Kirill 'Sunlight' Kaczynskiy and the administrator of the BETBOOM Streamers Battle Dota 14 tournament on the first twitch broadcast discussed the situation with estimates of internal…

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Yaroslav 'NS' Kuznetsov, Kirill 'Sunlight' Kachinsky and the administrator of the BETBOOM Streamers Battle Dota 14 tournament on the first's twitch broadcast discussed the situation with the assessments of the internal rating of players by expert Khaled 'sQreen' El-Khabbash that are out of the general picture.

Admin: I cannot comment on the specific ratings given by sQreen, because this is his opinion. After the end of the tournament, we will collect feedback from all captains, find out the opinion of each captain in general on the last tournament, on certain points, including our experts. And after the end of the tournament, upon receiving feedback, we will make some decisions and see what happens and how.

You should not change anything immediately before the start or during the tournament. We were asked to add an expert, there was a request from many captains to add an additional one. We also received recommendations from some captains.

Sunlight: Who recommended sQreen?

Admin: Let's focus on the fact that some captains asked us to add an expert, and we have already added sQreen.

NS: Weren’t any of you confused by the fact that there are two experts, and their assessments in some cases differ radically? That is, this eloquently suggests that one of them is not an expert. Or maybe both. How can their scores differ by 10–15 points?

Admin: Even in conditional boxing, different judges’ scores often differ quite greatly, and people are surprised how this happens. But in boxing you at least see all these blows, and in our case, when we put out these ratings, each person, including you, the captains, our dear experts, have their own perception of these particular ratings.

Sunlight: A bit of a stretched example, but imagine that there are some traders, they go to the stock exchange to trade. And one of these exchanges sets abnormal prices. All exchanges focus on each other and try to stick to the market. And you also have eight captains, a lot of people, players were asked, and their average ratings are not very different. But you have one crazy anomaly, into which you shoved a bunch of unnecessary power, and the person literally changed this entire rating on his own.

NS: That's a fact. And why didn’t this bother you? Why do you think this is normal? You have one expert - Fervian, whose assessments largely coincide with the opinions of the captains and participants. And one is a person who gives absolutely inadequate assessments. His ratings alone changed some players' ratings by five points, which is more than *** [a lot]. bowbowbow got seven points only because of sQreen. Do you realize that Nix may not have played in the tournament because of sQreen?

You put the opinion of your expert above the participation of the most media caster and streamer of Dota and the main asset of the tournament sponsor. After all, he didn’t want to play at first, until his and bowbowbow’s ratings unexpectedly increased greatly, and he said that he really didn’t like it. And they grew up solely because of sQreen. And why didn't this bother you? Why didn't you listen to what I wrote? Moreover, I proposed to pass a vote of no confidence in such an expert and remove his ratings before it is too late. It was maybe three days before the tournament. Yes, people would have to change something, but all these conversations would not be incomprehensible.

Admin: I'll tell you a little secret: some teams discussed within their chats that they did not come to the same conclusion as you, so they did not write anything to the captain's commission. Regarding the value of ratings: our final rating included not only sQreen. We recorded three components there: captains, participants and experts.

Earlier, Yaroslav 'NS' Kuznetsov expressed the opinion that in fact Timur 'TraVoMan' Khafizov is stronger than Rostislav 'rostislav_999' Protasenya, Yulia 'by_Owl' Ivleva has an inflated rating on BETBOOM Streamers Battle Dota 14.

Source: Dota2.ru

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